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Step One In Back Testing Your Trades – Back-Test Your Idea

The first step is back-testing your idea. Nice and simple with no real money at risk. This is the key stage but many people can’t be bothered.

Why not?

Because they want to trade and they want to have fun. Not work at it.

Don’t make this mistake. Back testing your trades is the foundation on which everything else is built. It is also the stage during which you get to see how your system parameters work in the real world.

One recommendation I would make is to visualise that you are actually doing the trades and the bets as you work through this. That way you will begin to understand how it will feel when your money is at risk as the market (or the match) bounces up or down until you end up with your final profit or loss.

At this stage you can also change some of your parameters to enhance system performance. The best systems are stable, meaning that minor changes in a parameter will not have a huge effect on profitability. If minor changes have huge effects then that is not a good sign.

Example 11.3: Back-Testing A Trading Idea

To make this process real for you I am going to put forward an idea and go through each of the six stages.

  • The trading idea: Buy either the bet FTSE to be up at 12pm or the bet FTSE to be down at 12pm if the price goes to 12 or lower. Allow the bet to expire at either zero or 100.
  • The reasoning: This system seeks to make money out of the early action on FTSE. If you examine how FTSE behaves in the first hour of trading you will see it can be fairly erratic and early losses or gains can be reversed. This is the sort of action this idea is looking for.

This is a simple example of a trading system. It defines the entry (when the bet price is 12 or lower) and the exit (allow to expire at zero or 100). That is all you need although systems can be a lot more complex.

Can we make money with this idea?

We are doing this process to find out.

Back Testing Results Table
Sample Table Indicating Trading Back Test Results

This table needs some explanation, these are the columns:

Date

There are only 9 entries because it is difficult to get access to binary prices going back further. You could use the underlying market with pre-set parameters or apply a binary formula but I prefer to extend the paper trading period to compensate for the shorter back-testing period.

Possible Entry

The possible entry is either given a value of 10 or more or is stated as <10 meaning “less than 10.”

Possible Exit

This sets out the best possible exit point of the bet. If a value of 0 is stated it means the bet simply moved down to 0 with no profit opportunity. A price above 0 identifies the best possible exit giving maximum profit although this does not imply the system captured all of that potential.

My Entry/My Exit

There are no entries for “my entry” or “my exit” as we are not taking trades at this point but these columns will become useful as we move onto later stages of the process.

Possible result

I categorised the results as follows:

0 – a loss of the amount risked

A – a profit of less than 20

B – a profit of 20-40

C – a profit of 40-60

D – a profit of 60-80

E – a profit in excess of 80

I use an Excel spreadsheet to track the results but this is not essential.

Back Testing nine trades is not a large sample and is not even statistically relevant (meaning we cannot rely on the results). Nevertheless, it is useful for illustrative purposes and we can be encouraged by the results which can be summarised as:

Metric #1

Four profits out of nine trades – 44.4%.

Metric #2

Average loss was 10 points as all the losses were 10 points.

There were 4 profits. Two went all the way and the bets closed at 100. The other two gave maximum potential at 77 and 82. This raises the question do we take profits early, say at 80 (giving a profit of 70 after the entry at 10) or do we let these run all the way? If we run all the way we end up with only two profits as the other two will close at zero. If we close at 80 we will get all four profits but those which had given us around 90 points of profit will only give us 70 points.

This sort of decision goes to the heart of system design.

If we decide to close at 80 we end up with 4 profits of around 70, average profit 70 and metric #2 becomes 7 (70 divided by 10).

Multiplying the two metrics together gives us 311% which is great but, don’t forget, it is also unreliable with so few trades.

Here are the results set out in the form of a table.

Trading Back Test Results Table Two
Trading Back Test Results Table Two

Having completed step one it is now time to move on to paper trading.

Taken from the book Binary Trading By John Piper

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GERMAN DAX TRADING- NICE ONE FOR MY SUBSCRIBERS https://johnpipertrader.com/german-dax-trading-nice-one-for-my-subscribers/ Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:50:00 +0000 https://johnpipertrader.com/?page_id=371 German Dax Trade – Big Call Newsletter I’ve been quiet of late, busy looking after my existing subscribers amongst other things. But I thought it worth posting a recent trade that many of you were/are really pleased with. I originally highlighted it  in the 2nd June Big Call newsletter. The German DAX ‘The DAX is now at… Continue reading GERMAN DAX TRADING- NICE ONE FOR MY SUBSCRIBERS

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German Dax Trade – Big Call Newsletter

I’ve been quiet of late, busy looking after my existing subscribers amongst other things. But I thought it worth posting a recent trade that many of you were/are really pleased with. I originally highlighted it  in the 2nd June Big Call newsletter.

German Dax Trade Example Big Call Newsletter

The German DAX

‘The DAX is now at 11332 down 98 points. Similar action on the DAX with maybe some backing and filling now due – see chart above.’

In fact things ended up progressing, and whilst working my way through a lunchtime treat (I won’t mention her name) at a mere whiff over 11500, we got the downside we were waiting for:

German Dax Trade Example Big Call Newsletter With Dialogue Box

Here’s the action without the dialog box in the way:

German Dax Trade Example Big Call Newsletter (No Dialogue Box)

At the time of writing, it is still going (unlike me). So there you have it, well done to those of you who had the patience to wait for the big move and enjoy watching it play out.

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Opening Report – 30 October 2012 https://johnpipertrader.com/opening-report-30-october-2012/ Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:46:00 +0000 https://johnpipertrader.com/?p=149 Whilst the US is lashed by the biggest storm in 70 years, markets over in this part of the globe seem to be celebrating but I’m sure these two events are not connected! However for now the rallies do count as the corrective ones I have been talking about and how many of you remember… Continue reading Opening Report – 30 October 2012

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Whilst the US is lashed by the biggest storm in 70 years, markets over in this part of the globe seem to be celebrating but I’m sure these two events are not connected!

However for now the rallies do count as the corrective ones I have been talking about and how many of you remember the hurricane over here in 1987 and what came next?

No overall change of opinion today and the case that we have seen key peaks remains. But we are due a bounce and it cannot be ruled out that these are just corrective moves doing everything they can to convince us they are anything but.

The US election gets closer every day and is due on 6th November and this is clearly a key event. Watching the debates between Romney and Obama the key feature to me was how often they called their opponents a liar, although they dressed it up a little more carefully.

It seems bizarre with all the information around today that they can get away with this – but maybe it does not matter to the voters, maybe it is simply about how well the candidates perform – on TV!

The real world may not be so important. It is certainly true that Obama was dealt a tough hand. The US election cycle is, in one sense, a game of pass the parcel and it exploded once Obama got hold of it!

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Opening Report – 10 August 2012 https://johnpipertrader.com/opening-report-10-august-2012/ Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:33:00 +0000 https://johnpipertrader.com/?p=73 Markets continue to drift around the highs and with options expiry next week I begin to wonder whether this may continue. Markets seem to be waiting for something but I don’t know what it may be.

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Markets continue to drift around the highs and with options expiry next week I begin to wonder whether this may continue. Markets seem to be waiting for something but I don’t know what it may be.

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Opening Report – 26 July 2012 https://johnpipertrader.com/opening-report-26-july-2012/ Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:46:00 +0000 https://johnpipertrader.com/?p=46 We have seen impulsive declines and now we are going through a quieter period which is as we would expect from a corrective phase. I continue to look for more downside once this phase is over. Markets are also awaiting the US GDP figures tomorrow and the market reaction to these will be of interest.… Continue reading Opening Report – 26 July 2012

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We have seen impulsive declines and now we are going through a quieter period which is as we would expect from a corrective phase. I continue to look for more downside once this phase is over. Markets are also awaiting the US GDP figures tomorrow and the market reaction to these will be of interest. For example weak figures (which are likely in this environment) can be viewed negatively as it is “bad” news or positively as it may lead to more stimulation, albeit this has done pretty much zero for the economy so far but that was never the main aim.

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